Arrowverse Creator Says He ‘Wasted’ His Time On DC Shows


The Arrowverse’s creator, Marc Guggenheim, has revealed that he “wasted” his time on the DC Comics shows he made for The CW, and he also added that working on them might have damaged his career in the long run, which is crazy to hear him say.

This all comes after it was revealed that The CW DC Comics TV shows are going to come to an end with The Flash Season 9, which finished filming not too long ago. The new co-CEOs over at DC Studios, James Gunn and Peter Safran, revealed that The CW DC shows would not be part of their DC Universe plans.

However, the writing was on the wall for the Arrowverse some time ago. It was coming to an end after The CW was purchased by Nexstar Media Group who seemingly wanted to focus on unscripted shows moving forward. It was then revealed that The Flash Season 9 was going to be the final Arrowverse series.

This came after the likes of DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow, Batwoman, Naomi, Supergirl, Stargirl and Black Lightning had all been cancelled. There were only two Arrowverse shows that were really allowed to come to a satisfactory conclusion, and they were Arrow and The Flash, which is going to come to an end with Season 9.

Arrowverse creator feels that he wasted his time on the DC shows


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So, Arrowverse creator Marc Guggenheim wrote a new blog post on his personal site in which he got very candid about how he can’t help but feel he wasted his time working on The CW’s many superhero shows. He was the writer, producer, and co-creator of Stephen Amell’s Arrow, where he then acted as showrunner and writer for a handful of seasons and executive producer on the others.

On top of that, he also wrote for Arrowverse’s Vixen, Legends of Tomorrow, and Supergirl. He was also credited as an executive producer on all of these shows. He basically dedicated his career to the Arrowverse, and he feels like it was a bit of a waste of time.

In his blog post, Guggenheim shared how, back when The CW’s big crossover event, Crisis on Infinite Earths, was being made, a friend of his claimed that, as he put it, his “phone [was] going to ring off the hook”.  However, rather upsettingly, Guggenheim’s “phone did not, in fact, ring”.

The producer noted that the five-hour, six-show television event “was a labor in every respect,” having used every resource and connection at his disposal. Here’s what he had to say on the matter:

[Crisis On Infinite Earths] made a significant impression on my psyche, was more than a labor of love — it was a labor in every respect and a project where I spent every ounce of capitol I’d amassed in developing DC Comics-related shows for Warner Bros. over an eight-year period. I called in every favor. I used every chit. I burned every bridge. I even spent $10,000 of my own money.

Crisis On Infinite Earths was a labour of love

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Guggenheim went on to point out how his big crossover even “mainstream[ed] the concept of an interconnected multiverse” before the MCU got around to it. Here’s what he had to say on the matter:

Years before ‘Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness’ would mainstream the concept of an interconnected multiverse, ‘Crisis’ brought together characters from the 1966 ‘Batman’ television show, the 1989 ‘Batman’feature, the 1990 ‘The Flash’ series, the ‘Smallville’ series, ‘Lucifer’, ‘Doom Patrol’, ‘Titans’, ‘Swamp Thing’, the ‘Green Lantern’ movie, ‘Superman Returns’, ‘Kingdom Come’… the list goes on and on. Ezra Miller even reprised their feature film role as Barry Allen to meet the Arrowverse incarnation played by Grant Gustin.

Guggenheim then revealed that his intention with these words wasn’t to “belittle [Crisis on Infinite Earths] in the slightest” and that he feels “deeply grateful” for the response from fans”. Here’s what he wrote:

Yes — and I don’t mean to belittle [‘Crisis on Infinite Earths’] in the slightest — fans loved what we did. There were Tweets. There were posts. There were memes. There was much discussion. All of which I was — and remain — deeply grateful for. Working on these shows, we always reminded ourselves that the opposite of love was not hate, it was apathy, and no matter what, there was never any apathy.

A waste of time?

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That was when Guggenheim then revealed that “on a career level,” he “really wasted [his] time” on the Arrowverse, which is really sad to read because he put so much into developing that incredible universe for television. Here’s what he wrote:

And then there was some other stuff which basically boiled down to me lamenting that although working for DC had been creatively fulfilling, it involved a lot of adversity, challenges, and personal sacrifices — none of which seem to have accrued to any professional benefit. Simply put, the Arrowverse hasn’t led to any other gigs, so it feels — at least on a career level — that I really wasted my time.

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